Paving the Path to Authenticity: A Sneak Peek into Our Podcast Renovation

You've probably wondered, like Amanda's husband, how the topics in our podcast, 'What Women Want Today', fit into our title. Well, hold onto your headphones because we're about to give you a fresh perspective on this. We've been thinking the same and have decided to revamp the podcast to reflect our vision of helping women become the best versions of themselves. We talk about the small things that keep us going throughout the day (hint: it’s not just coffee) and how we're using feedback to steer the direction of our podcast.

Our podcast is not just about us, it's about you too, our listeners. We're considering a women's retreat, a trip away from the hustle and bustle, a chance for our listeners to join us and feel less alone. We also open up about the challenges and lessons learned from podcasting and how it's made us more vulnerable and authentic. We discuss the importance of respect and understanding, even in disagreements, and how these conversations can lead to more meaningful connections.

We believe in the power of conversation and the transformative ripple effect it can have on our lives. Our honest chats are not just about making us feel good but to help others think differently and grow in their relationships with themselves and others. As we look to the future, we're excited about the new season focused on relationships, but we're also taking a break to focus on our health. Join us on this thrilling journey of self-discovery and growth, and be part of this incredible ripple effect.

POEM
I will not die an unlived life
I will not live in fear
of falling or catching fire.
I choose to inhabit my days,
to allow my living to open me,
to make me less afraid,
more accessible,
to loosen my heart
until it becomes a wing,
a torch, a promise.
I choose to risk my significance;
to live so that which came to me as seed
goes to the next as blossom
and that which came to me as blossom,
goes on as fruit.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:03

Hello and welcome to what Women Want Today, podcast season three, the Soul Sister series, where we will tackle tough topics straight from our heart to yours. I'm Terri Kellams, your host and coach for women who struggle to find meaning in fulfillment in midlife.

Speaker 2: 0:17

I am Amanda Kieber. I am your new regular contributor. I come straight from the Midwest Rockford Illinois. I'm a public speaking teacher and leadership development professor. I'm also a coach and clinical mental health counselor. I am so thrilled to be here, and let's get started.

Speaker 1: 0:33

Let's do it.

Speaker 3: 0:35

Hello, welcome to this week's episode of the podcast. I'm your host, terri Kellams.

Speaker 2: 0:39

I am your co-host, amanda Kieber. Hello, hello, hello, my friend. How are you today? I am good. I've been working since 9am, so I am on my second energy level task of the day, but I'm excited to be here because we have some fun stuff to chat about.

Speaker 3: 0:58

Do you find that you have to because I know you're so busy and you're going from one thing to another a lot of days? Do you find yourself having to get that second wind, or sometimes even a third wind in one day?

Speaker 2: 1:07

Yes, absolutely. I like to recharge when I'm in the car, on the way from one appointment to the next appointment, and I also have little things to help wake me up. I am not a fan of pop at all, but if I'm really struggling, I found those little bitty keins of Coca-Cola. On a really hard day, I will let myself have a half a can of Coca-Cola and it wakes me right up, but I don't like to do that. However, I started a step bet challenge and I am on week two of it and I'm doing amazing, so I might not feel so guilty if I allow myself a half of a mini Coca-Cola now that I'm walking so much.

Speaker 3: 1:49

How long have you been doing that? Like two weeks, two weeks, yes.

Speaker 2: 1:54

Last week last week in my warm-up week I walked 29 miles, which is really good for me.

Speaker 3: 2:00

Yeah, so how much time is that equating to a day? Do you think I was thinking a bunch of this morning when I was walking An hour and a half? Wow, I'm not even sure how you've been an hour and a half into your already jam-pack schedule, but Well, I've been getting up in the morning.

Speaker 2: 2:14

That's the best way for me to do. It is get up in the morning. Plus it's cooler and then if I have to get steps in at night, I can easily take a nighttime walk. I prefer to walk in the morning and at night, so it's great for me. Plus, if you eat, it helps me move my food around and digest it, so it's just a better option anyway.

Speaker 3: 2:33

I agree, and you're probably getting some vitamin D that you didn't work getting before. So win, win, win all the way around. But you know, I heard it tip a long time ago. I don't even know if it's true, so I'm not going to vouch for it, but I will give it to you. They say that eating an apple can be just as powerful for waking you up or giving you energy as a cup of coffee.

Speaker 2: 2:52

Interesting. One of my colleagues constantly walks around my college campus eating an apple. I wonder if that's why he's doing it.

Speaker 3: 3:00

An apple a day keeps the doctor.

Speaker 2: 3:03

Yeah, anyway, if anybody would like to join me in the step bet challenge. It just started. They have new ones that start every six weeks and you put $40 in. As long as you meet your bet, meet your goal, you keep your $40. And then anybody who doesn't keep their bet and they keep their goal, they split it with all the winners. People that I know who have done it might win five bucks, but you have your walk, your steps and you won five bucks.

Speaker 3: 3:28

It's so interesting that you say that because I feel like the five bucks is the motivation, but I bet by the time you're done with the challenge, you've developed discipline.

Speaker 2: 3:36

Oh, 100%. This morning I was super tired. I'm like I don't care, I feel good when I walk. Now I just want to walk.

Speaker 3: 3:45

I was at the gym yesterday. I think I told you I started going and just doing lower body workout and then the opposite day I'll just walk outdoors. They're nice. But yesterday I saw this woman. I don't know begin to guess how old she was, but I'm going to say at least like 75, let's say you could tell she was not familiar with the machines because there was a gentleman helping her get on a bicycle. I thought, oh my gosh, I would just love to run over to you and just stay, stick to it, hang in there. I've done it for half a couple times. It's not easy, but once you get going it's going to feel so great. You should be so proud of yourself. But of course I didn't do that, but it was tempting.

Speaker 2: 4:26

You're awesome. Maybe you'll see your phone or tell her.

Speaker 3: 4:29

Yeah, maybe, maybe I'll feel, I feel. But hey, you know what? This week I'm sitting in a new spot. Did you notice? I didn't notice those who watch us on YouTube. I'm sitting in my dining room, so that's my living room behind me. I did it on purpose, because the podcast is about to go through some changes and that's what we're going to talk about in today's episode. Amanda, you and I were I don't know how long we've been talking about this, but I feel like it's been pretty much since the beginning you joined me for the Soul Sister series. Amanda's husband is to be very transparent. Amanda's husband says what did they say about the name of the podcast?

Speaker 2: 5:10

So he will listen to an episode and then after each episode he'll say I just don't understand what that episode had to do with what women want today. If I'm listening to this podcast, I'm trying to answer that question with each episode. And then I thought, honey, you're just being hypercritical, he's kind of a perfectionist. And that was over at my mother-in-law's house the other day and she was listening to the episode on journaling and she goes I loved it, it's great and all it was, but it felt kind of like a therapy session and I was just wondering, like, what does that have to do with what women want today?

Speaker 3: 5:44

The very first time you told me, Gary said that I was like I know, Gary, and I'm not going to have hurt feelings, because he would never say something just with the intention hurt my feelings. So I'm going to take this with the intention of what can I take away from this? Like, if he's thinking that, then other people must be thinking it too. And just a little backstory on the name I was taking a course from a woman and her. The theme of her podcast is absolutely nothing to do with what she talks about every week and I'm not going to throw her into the bus because she has a very successful podcast, but it's called Whiskey and Work and she's a great lady, she's a great teacher, Her podcast is very interesting, but I've never heard her talk about Whiskey even one time. So I took that to mean like, well, probably isn't that big of a deal.

Speaker 3: 6:33

And in your podcast I was going to originally name it, let's whine about it W? I N? E. Because I feel like some of the my favorite all-time conversations have been when you're with a girlfriend or a couple of girlfriends and you're just relaxed and you're enjoying a glass of wine and you're just sharing. You're sharing your hearts, you're sharing community with other women. You're just being vulnerable and enjoying time together, and I thought that's so perfect.

Speaker 3: 7:04

The only problem is I don't want them to come on to the podcast and think we're going to talk about wine, because I literally only love to drink it and don't know a whole lot about it. I know that all the gurus that I've listened to say you know, someone should be able to hear the name of your podcast and know exactly what to expect out of it. So Geary is saying that's not what we're getting. It's not what people are getting when they see what women want to say they're not getting what maybe they would expect out of it. So you and I have been having these conversations of well, what is our mission? What do we want women to get out of this podcast when they come in each week, and a couple of men that I know that would do it.

Speaker 2: 7:44

Yeah, 100%. I've actually had men find great value in it, although I know that that's not the goal or the audience for either of us. I didn't know if I was going to stay on or if this was going to be temporary, and I know that we were talking about if I stay on long term. It really needs to be something that I feel 100% represents who I am as well. So then we had to start. We had to start like kind of revisioning what do we stand for, like what do we both agree on as goals?

Speaker 2: 8:15

I know we had a great conversation the other day, and for me it's really about helping women become the best versions of themselves, and I work with a lot of women in their early 20s, and so for me, I didn't want to just pigeonhole myself into talking to women in midlife, because I feel like many of the topics that you have talked about in the past and that we have talked in the past about can apply to women from many different age groups, and that women who are in our 40s and 50s have so much value and wisdom to share with women who are in their 20s and their 30s, and I wish somebody in my 20s or in their. I wish somebody when I was in my 20s would have poured into me in their 40s or 50s, because I feel like I would have maybe had a little easier of a time kind of overcoming some of the obstacles if they had been pouring into me. So for me I feel like the audience could be expanded to women in multiple age groups.

Speaker 3: 9:18

Yeah, and I've struggled with that. I've struggled with that whole thing because everything I've learned says that you need to be very niche specific. We are kind of niche specific in that we do want to pour into women. That's one thing we both agree on. We want to pour into women. I hear you saying you have that very powerful reason and I think from the beginning, my reason was I didn't want women to feel like they were going through this alone. Yes, but that can apply not just to midlife but to every stage of life. It's you know, we shouldn't feel like we're going through things alone. I've been listening to Brené Brown's Braving the Wilderness and there are. So loneliness is becoming a problem in America.

Speaker 2: 10:07

Yes, and I agree more. Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up, because when you say what do women want today, I truly feel like it's more connection and less loneliness. Yes, I do too. 100%.

Speaker 3: 10:21

So you know, one thing I said to you the other day is, you know, the analogy I used was you know, we're baking a cake, like this new era of the podcast that we're about to go in. And, just so the listeners know, season four is going to be primarily all about relationships Relationships with ourselves, with our spouse, with our friends, like all sorts of relationships we're going to really dive deep in and I think it's going to be a wonderful season. But when they'll really see the changes happen more drastically, I would say, is the very next season. It's when we will rename it and it will be much more. It'll be much more clear as to what our mission is. But in the meantime, like I said, my analogy was we're going to bake a cake. We just aren't sure yet what all the ingredients are going to be.

Speaker 2: 11:11

Yeah, we're on a journey, we're on an adventure together, and it's still unfolding, and our goal is that, like our dream is, at the end of this next relationship series, that the new branding, the new identity that comes from it will be so crystal clear that it will be. We will just catch fire and want to really expand our reach and be more inclusive, and I think that I think it's going to be amazing. I'm super excited to explore the unknown with you, because the fact is is we don't even know where the journey is going to take us. We just know we're on a journey together.

Speaker 3: 11:51

We have been talking about doing something together since 2019. Yeah, it's like it really may be even a little bit before that, because we were on a girls trip with two other women and we talked about that's when our idea was like, once a year, coming together, bringing other women along and having like like almost like sessions where we dive into things. And we got some resistance from the two women that we were with that. I don't think that was their cup of tea, but it's been our heart, yeah, for years.

Speaker 2: 12:19

And I'm so glad you just said that too, because I and I know we have talked about this but, like, if Terry and I do this right, one day we will have a women's retreat or a women's trip where the listeners are invited to join us and we go somewhere together as women who have been on a journey together. And you know, terry has huge dreams. She's said things over the years, like you know, we just need to rent a private island and have women come out for a retreat. I mean, maybe it's not going to be that big, but I truly, truly would love to see it one day where we make, we put a post out there, we put a call out there and says here's the date, here's the time, join us, anyone, come one, come all. We want you to feel less lonely.

Speaker 3: 13:08

Yeah, and I was talking the other day like I feel like the first season of the podcast was about me trying to figure out what my voice was as a hattcaster, yeah, and the second season, with Elizabeth, was trying to figure out what does it feel like, what does it look like? How do I be a podcast host with a co-host? And then this season has just been really about being more authentic and showing the world more of my vulnerable side in front of the world, with my soul sister, exploring this part of it. And there has been some painful moments for me, some painful moments where, after the episode aired and I re-listened to it, I was like, oh God, I said that, oh, I shared that, and it was tough, but it's gotten easier.

Speaker 2: 13:56

So I'm interested, Terri. We talked about what are your motivations, what are your reasons for continuing, and we have talked about how, for some podcasters, it's so hard to put yourself out there and it's hard to be vulnerable and be more authentic and then wonder how will people respond. And one of the things Brené Brown says is that the people that are in the arena that are fighting and scraping and they're bloodied and they are tired and they continue to put the work in and they just want to feed into people. Then it comes with some risk and it comes with great risk, right, but I can see that you have grown in your just what you share with the world and for me it's been so beautiful to witness. And I'm just wondering do you like this aversion of Terri, the podcaster in season three?

Speaker 3: 14:54

I do. So I was thinking about this this morning. Oh, brené Brown was saying that she has kind of adopted she had adopted now, if she's changing, but she had adopted this sort of like let's just agree to disagree mentality. And in the book she talks about Breivin and Wendler. She talks about how that really doesn't serve anybody because it stops us from being curious about why do you feel that way? What you know, tell me more about your belief, about that.

Speaker 3: 15:27

And the way I've gambled it in the past on the podcast is just sort of gloss over it. You know, if somebody said something that a little bit out of my comfort zone or maybe didn't line up with my beliefs and here's the thing like my personality is it lends itself to appreciating that people have beliefs that are different than mine, even if I don't agree with them. And but I'm never going to debate somebody on their beliefs. It's just that, just not my personality. But if I'm with someone who believes like I believe, then I could be very vocal.

Speaker 3: 16:00

So in the podcast, in the past on the podcast, when those opportunities came up, I sort of glossed over them and didn't really validate them, but didn't say anything to the contrary either. And I think, if I've had a goal for myself for the future in the podcast, I would be a little more brave and I would be a little more curious about those beliefs that aren't like mine and challenge myself to listen, dive a little deeper and, at the end of the day, no matter what they say or use they, what the response is, I can still have my own beliefs and we can still walk away. And what I was telling my friend Jennifer this morning is, even when you and I don't believe the same things, the thing that holds us together is respect.

Speaker 2: 16:50

Oh my gosh, 100%. And I'm smiling because there are moments where you have done that and I wish we could get together a group of clips where you've been like I disagree, no, I'm getting, I'm getting warm inside, and you have done that. So I love to hear you say that, because I would love to see more of those moments, because that's what listeners find engaging, that's what's going to keep them listening is. You know? Let's have an argument. Why not? Why not?

Speaker 2: 17:16

No, yeah we have to read it. Renee says clear is client, clear is kind, clear is kind. So when you pass up an opportunity to say something that's in disagreement with somebody you care about has said, then you've missed an opportunity to connect. But you nailed it like we have to maintain that respect for each other, that at the end of the day you know we are safe enough with each other to say X, y or Z and then still be like, oh my gosh, you're my soul. So the story will always will be what are we talking about tomorrow?

Speaker 3: 17:51

Yeah, exactly, I feel like during my ad-signal recovery I spent way too much time on social media. So I think there's a. I feel like I have a healthy balance most of the time where I can scroll through and stop on. The interesting thing when I found myself doing that was so much different during the recovery period was I would dive deeper into the comments and I found myself just being like, oh my gosh, people are so unkind, people are so disrespectful and rude and and they can only do it behind the safety of their keyboard and the computer screen right, they could they stay some of that stuff to somebody in real life without risk of getting punished right in the face. Now I feel like I just want to go hey, I'm just here for the comments. You guys are like and you're like they're using people watch the Jerry Springer show.

Speaker 3: 18:45

So I have a hard time with the, the commentary that feel aggressive or that feels demeaning or feel unkind or disrespectful. I feel like if we could do something in the world today, just things up a notch in our, in our kindness close in our I'll give a shout out to Cindy Roll for the kindness thing that she brought to my life. But I feel like if we could just do what Bernay Brown says and just be a little bit more curious, you could simply say it as Tell me more. What a simple sentence. You don't have to say, I'm agreeing with you. Just tell me more. So I hope that will come about a little bit more as we continue to grow and evolve over season four into season five with the rebrand.

Speaker 2: 19:33

So tell me something that you hope that we accomplish, if you have something in mind, yeah, I can tell you very, very quickly I hope that we have more listener engagement, because I can tell you that the most rewarding thing for me being a part of this series is having people reach out to me and say I couldn't agree more. Or, man, that episode hit me hard, I hadn't thought about it that way. Or I really need to spend more time focusing on X, y or Z. Or the chemistry between the two of you has really made me reconnect with some of the friends that I lost connection with. Or I've never put friendships as a priority and I want a girl's trip too. Or there's so many different things that people have said to us over the weeks and the months that have been so impactful to me, and so I would love if we could get more feedback from people as to what helps and what makes them feel included, what makes you feel less lonely in the world.

Speaker 3: 20:37

Yeah, I love that and I think we say it during different episodes. But I really think if the listeners could do us that honor and that favor of sharing an episode that you really love with a friend, putting it on your story on Instagram or your Facebook page, or sending us an email letting us know, or go on to the Facebook community and start a conversation, that's your community too, the listeners it's their community too, so you don't have to wait for Amanda or I to start a conversation. It's you know, I'm having this struggle, I have this accomplishment I'd love to share with other women and you know that's it's probably going to have to be a community effort for all of us to get a little bit better at engaging over the content, because we need to know what you guys love. I can look at the numbers and Amanda and I talked about this too Like I can look at the numbers and I can say, wow, you really loved the episode.

Speaker 3: 21:36

Do happy couples cheat? The numbers say that what you want to hear about. So you know we can. We can analyze what the most viewed videos on are on YouTube. We can analyze the most listened episodes through, you know, an audio podcast platform. But what we really need to do is hear from the listeners and the viewers.

Speaker 2: 21:59

Yes, and I would even love to have. I would even have love to have a listener or a viewer on the podcast If you feel like you have a topic that meets the needs of this audience or has something that you've always had as a goal, like reach out to us. That's, you know. So I, like I said earlier, I want to help people become the best versions of themselves, and that means empowering women to meet their goals and dream bigger dreams. So I would love to know what all of you are dreaming about, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 22:28

Absolutely. And you know I was telling you when we first started out our conversation today, before we started recording, that people forget about 80% of what they learned. So I think what we're probably going to do is take some of the information from past episodes and pull it into the future with us and just expand on and go a little deeper. I have been guilty in the past of not going deep enough. Yeah, because I thought I thought people wanted short episodes, but that's not really. That's not really what we're seeing in the numbers. So again, you know, feedback to us is so crucial for us to continue to grow this and to take it to the level that we want to take it. I want to build, I want to bake that cake with you. I want it to be the best, most delicious, yummy cake. And I think I've got cake on the brink as my birthday is coming up in a few weeks.

Speaker 2: 23:23

I'm sitting here going man. I hope it's gluten free, because gluten's really been messing me up lately and I want to make sure this cake doesn't make my belly hurt.

Speaker 3: 23:30

No, no, no, no, no, no. What else is on your mind about this whole remarketing, rebranding?

Speaker 2: 23:39

So, like we have talked about privately, I think that good branding and good marketing could be put on a t-shirt or a mug. I really want this to be the type of branding that is marketable, that catches fire. I know that Terry read me a poem the other day and that phrase catch fire just stuck with me and that's kind of like the ripple effect. Ripple effect that you know when you go and you hear something that really impacted your life, you tell people about it. Or when you go and have a bad experience somewhere, you tell people about it. Like when something good is happening, it's catching fire. Like look at forest fires that start like they. You know, before you know it it can overtake something. So I want people to catch fire in a good way.

Speaker 3: 24:27

Yeah, I was going to remember and read that poem out loud today, and now I totally, I totally.

Speaker 2: 24:34

Maybe we could put the poem in the show notes that you had read to me, and that's why I keep saying that phrase. And this is what it's about. Like for me, it's about these kind of organic conversations where it just gets you thinking like I wouldn't even be using that phrase had I not had a wonderful conversation with my soul sister. I want women to be more connected. So they're thinking, they're growing, they're expanding their living more fully and they're enjoying life more.

Speaker 3: 25:01

If I can remember it, because I heard once that people it's a podcast for three reasons One to be entertained, one to be educated and one to help them think differently, and I've always leaned towards number three. I love number two. I love the education part. I don't really want to entertain, even though I can be hilarious sometimes. Yes, you can. We need to do another wine episode.

Speaker 2: 25:22

We're both going to cut the wine because that's literally going to say you're on two glasses of sewing your block. You're hilarious.

Speaker 3: 25:30

Oh, anyways, I've always leaned towards. Number three is I would love it if somebody listened to one of our episodes and I think they have, and they have because they've given us the feedback and they thought I never thought about it that way before. Yeah, maybe they still don't want to think about it that way, but maybe for that moment you know, they thought I'm considering this, I would be, I would be pleased with considering this, but you know, I hope that eventually it's leading to more personal growth. You know it? I think. No, I love like the knowing yourself, when we talked about that on the episode in this past season. Like the knowing yourself is like, just like that, it's like the foundation of all of it. You know. Like how can you, how can you really Give of yourself and know what your strengths are and your talents are and and all that gets you out to get to the world, if you don't take time to really to know who you are?

Speaker 2: 26:24

Yeah to you love reflection, and so do I, I do.

Speaker 3: 26:27

I do. I'll have conversations with somebody and then, like, see you later, I'll come back and I'll go back. You know what's thinking about what you're saying.

Speaker 2: 26:36

It's called inoculation you plant the seed and then, days later, you're still growing from it. So, yeah, I'm super excited. I can't wait to see where this goes. So so the next season is relationships. So we're going to go into relationships. We'll talk about tough topics. We know that the numbers show that women love to talk about the difficulties and the challenges and the joys and the you know, the aha moments, and I'm super excited about that, so that we can go more in depth. And we've talked. I feel like we've gone into Breath. Now let's go into death.

Speaker 3: 27:15

Yeah, love it, love it. All. Right, my friend, I am excited I get to see you. Next week. We have one more episode of this season, the soul sister season, with Dr Gupta, and we're gonna talk about, and we're gonna talk about Hashimoto and thyroid, and and then we are done. We're taking our little pause. You and I are gonna spend a couple days together, mm-hmm, and we're taking a little pause.

Speaker 3: 27:43

I feel like I want to just be a little bit vulnerable here with the listeners for a moment. This, this pause, is for a few reasons. Amanda's been working her ass off for months and she needs a little. She needs a little break, whether she thinks she does or not. I'm gonna give her one, and we both need.

Speaker 3: 28:02

I feel like it's hard to be super creative when you got your irons in too many fires and I'm speaking for myself, you know I'm not, that's for you, but I feel like I've said this before on social media. I don't know if I've said on a podcast, maybe I have but I feel like when you let your brain do creative things, like I have a piece of furniture I want to refinish, there's something else I was gonna do. I can't. Oh, I'm. I'm of all things. Amanda, this is crazy. I am starting to mill my own flour from wee berries and making homemade bread. So I'm I really am excited to dive into that a little bit.

Speaker 3: 28:37

It's not healthier for you, yeah, but but the other end of spectrum is, you know, I've talked about my thyroid natural a little bit and it is. They think it is cancerous. So I need to focus on my health a little bit for a little, a little short period of time. And my husband was just diagnosed with skin cancer. So I, you and I haven't even had chance to talk about this yet, but he had one removed here and it came back Melanoma. And he has one on his jaw line that they said also needs surgery and it's. He has one over here in a space that they burned off and came right back. So I guess having them so close together is not a good sign. So we both really want to focus on his health, my health, and get some answers about what's going on with both of us. So a few weeks of a breather. He's thinking about taking some time off to get all that Self-worked out. I guess if it goes into your lymph nodes, it's. It's not good. So we're just.

Speaker 2: 29:41

Yeah, and I, I, I think one of the things that hurts my heart so much is my mom took care of my dad and then she got cancer and it was like she never stopped and and I'm telling you, one of the things that Keeps coming back is, if you don't take care of yourself, you can't take care of anybody else, and I think she sacrificed her own health for the health of others, and the cost of that can be deadly. So I have so much respect for you doing that, terry. I have so much respect for you for that.

Speaker 3: 30:15

Not gonna be a long break, we don't. We're not gonna put a time frame on it right now, but when we do put out the next season we wanted to be so top-notch I want to have all my focus on paying attention to that and giving it my best. This is my Passion, is my purpose, and I'm so glad I get to be doing it with you. So I look forward to seeing you next week and to our listeners. I look forward to being back in front of this mic, in front of this camera, with you very soon for season four, which we haven't named the season yet.

Speaker 2: 30:48

I bet we probably will yes, it's all gonna come and it's going to be very intentional, and trust that we have our heart and we're wholeheartedly working on this. We don't want to do things, you know, half ass. We want to do things all in. So I can't wait to see you all next, after our next episode. But, dr Gupta, and then a little break, and we will come back with lots of surprises.

Speaker 3: 31:12

Absolutely Okay, my friend. I will talk to you soon, love you.

Speaker 2: 31:16

Love you, bye, bye, everybody.

Speaker 1: 31:20

Well, that's a wrap for this week. Thank you so much for joining us. We're so glad to be here with you and just remember we're here to serve.

Speaker 2: 31:28

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Speaker 1: 31:35

We kept me to continue the conversation with you over there. You